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rove and the republican national committee that turned out voters at the democrats in places like ohio didn't even know were there. so, you know, and with barack obama at the evidence the ticket, they were able to do that this time around. with him not there anymore, it will depend a lot on who the candidate is as to whether they're able to replicate anything like that strong. >> bill: this influences everybody's lives, all our lives if the president is indeed taking on a more arrogant posture in the sense that he is going to move as far as left as he wants to move because he says why not? i'm not going to get these people anyway. we don't need them anymore. california going to be mostly hispanic. hispanics will be in the majority. birth rate among white americans very low whereas hispanic americans much higher. we don't need those people. i'm not even going to represent them. i don't care about them. i'm going to create a nanny state and entitlement society and go right to my base. give them what they want and everybody else can go you know what. >> well, it's certainly the case with
rove and the republican national committee that turned out voters at the democrats in places like ohio didn't even know were there. so, you know, and with barack obama at the evidence the ticket, they were able to do that this time around. with him not there anymore, it will depend a lot on who the candidate is as to whether they're able to replicate anything like that strong. >> bill: this influences everybody's lives, all our lives if the president is indeed taking on a more arrogant...
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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint van zant will join me. >>> first, officials rule out one cause of the super bowl blackout. the sudden power outage in the game's second half not caused by electrical work done in december. that was one of the theories. power company and the company that manages the super dome says it originated where a power line meets the dome's electrical system. ravens coach john harbaugh said he was stunned but proud of the team's handling of the delay. >> it was just crazy. we haven't seen that one before. it was new. changed the complexion. they did a great job and changed momentum. they swung and wasn't the lights or the power
details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by spending us into record debt. >> and you're seeing, you know, the immediate reaction among some parts of the conservative movement, parts of the tea party, more populist part of the party, attacking the group, saying that he's the karl rove and his allies, they have a bad record to run on and that they're deviating from the principles of true conservatism and they want to back sellouts. i think the main thing you're going to see over the course of this next cycle is a further deepening of the schism between the two kind of pieces of the republican party. the
>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by...
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gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to see you, rev. >> michael, karl rove to save the party from the tea party, do you buy it? >> no, i don't. and i don't think many of the not just tea parties, but grass roots conservatives will. instead of taking those dollars out of the states and hunkering them down here in a newly created super pac in washington, how about investing in the state party organizations around the country to help them build the farm team that is going to be required to win in the future. this is not an overnight success deal, reverend. you cannot come from the s shellacking of '06 and '12 and throw dollars
gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >>...
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was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican groups that oppose abortion and gay rights responded by calling rove a fake conservative who had declared war on the tea party. fight, fight fight fight! seriously, kids, don't fight. you're both equally wrong about everything. it doesn't really matter how this comes out. >> stephanie: first public glimpse inside a power struggle inside the republican party. bloomberg writes in wake of the epic november loss, the riff could lead to more costly republican primaries. fight, fight, fight! brent boseel says their idea of the most electable presidential candidate was mi
was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican...
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. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano fr
. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good...
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so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox news. >> yeah. >> bill: why did they hire dennis casinich. >> that's a great question. obviously fox news is conservative, but the number one goal is programming, and roger ailes wants to have people on there to yell at each other. they probably made him an offer that was really good and now they have somebody on there that they can yell at. >> bill: i wonder if they'll give him the opportunity to express his opinions. >> yeah. >> bill: we saw each other last night at the launch of the new, new republic. i don't know how long the new republic has been ar
so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox...
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and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are here every day. good morning, jacki schechner. >> i want a sherry's berries gift card. >> stephanie: hey, john kasick just undouched himself. he is going to accept the obama medicare medicaid expansion. >> amazing. i love when governors and lawmakers do things that actually benefit the citizens of they state. >> stephanie: right. the only reason not to do it jacki is you are a douche. >> pretty much. and you want to be like rick scott. >> stephanie: it's a technical term, douche. here she is jacki schechner health care geek of the current news center. >> good morning, everybody, presi
and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are...
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rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying attention. i got to go with the ravens, see ray lewis finish on top. >> lori? >> if playoff joe flacco shows up, i think the ravens win. if regular season joe flacco shows up, not so much. >> thanks to both of you. just over to hours from kickoff down in the big easy and also two hours from the biggest of the year in advertising as well. we'll give you a preview of the ads to watch for in between the plays. first, though, a teenage girl just back from her trip to washington to perform with president obama's inauguration gunned down in chicago. a senseless tragedy that put
rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying...
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karl rove we can convince some -- i would hope that we can convince some of of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners, also joined in the sense of promise? -- also join in the sandy hook promise? >> there is not a law-abiding firearms owner across the united states that was not torn to pieces by what happened in sandy ". -- in sandy hook. they just don't believe their constitutional right to own a firearm and the fact they can protect their family with a firearm results and the problem. -- in the problem. >> you and i agree there should be more prosecution of illegal gun possession and illegal gun ownership. >> i have been on this capitol hill for 20 some years agree to that and nobody does it and that's the problem. i will make you
karl rove we can convince some -- i would hope that we can convince some of of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners,...
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and have karl rove lose his -- [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it would be awesome. are you sure? are you sure? the texas party truly believes that the state lead by latino could deny republicans in the house with potentially forever. the latino population are the fastest growing group meaning it is just matter of time before white conservatives become minorities. we are the only majority minority state of the union that doesn't have an elected democratic official. one analyst said i think in 2014, we're going to be considered a swing state. by 2016 we'll be seen fully in play. texas, my friends. [ applause ] >> stephanie: we're going to mess with texas. >> texas is doing fine messing with itself. >> stephanie: yeah, john boehner said the president is trying to innile late the republican party. no, you are doing a pretty good job yourself. back with charlie pierce next on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda,
and have karl rove lose his -- [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it would be awesome. are you sure? are you sure? the texas party truly believes that the state lead by latino could deny republicans in the house with potentially forever. the latino population are the fastest growing group meaning it is just matter of time before white conservatives become minorities. we are the only majority minority state of the union that doesn't have an elected democratic official. one analyst said i think in...
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the karl rove people. >> it is the people like michele bachmann and marsha blackburn from getting in there. >> stephanie: oh, jehovah god. the end of the tea party is near. >> the day is at hand. we are in the last days. your jehovah god. >> stephanie: it is the most robust attempt yet to impose a new sense of discipline. discipline on the party. oh, no! because barbaric must be disciplined. [whipping sounds] >> stephanie: there is broad concern about having blown a significant number of races. races. [whipping sounds] [because the wrong candidate was selected. we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win. you know what they call that? that's the buckley rule, jim. >> jr. >> stephanie: right. you know what they're saying in this article. by imposing the buckley rule, electing the most conservative candidate, they may be running foul of the reagan rule, not to speak ill of other republicans. what happens when you get your buckley rule reagan rule? >> you've got buckley in my reagan. >> two great tastes that taste great together. >> stephanie: it would put a new twist on
the karl rove people. >> it is the people like michele bachmann and marsha blackburn from getting in there. >> stephanie: oh, jehovah god. the end of the tea party is near. >> the day is at hand. we are in the last days. your jehovah god. >> stephanie: it is the most robust attempt yet to impose a new sense of discipline. discipline on the party. oh, no! because barbaric must be disciplined. [whipping sounds] >> stephanie: there is broad concern about having blown...
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we were dramatically out spent by karl rove and biggs -- and big looters -- polluters.we saw tax on their energy policies. heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unsuccessful as well. to put some hard numbers on this -- only was spent seven percent of winning the races. you contrast that with the record i am proud to share with you that our organization has -- 80% was spent on winning. in massachusetts we had. voting for taxpayer handouts to those industries that are making near record profits at the pump. pre and post polling from those ads showed that his record dropped among independent a shocking 21%. so i offer that as an anecdote of powerful the ties are in terms of public mind of who they trust in elected office and who they are taking their money from and whose bidding they are doing. folks want to know more about our work you can check it out at our website. i got some copies of our elections report in back if you would like to take them at the end. you don't have to take my word for our success source i can offer two quotes from senators we worked with. senator eliza
we were dramatically out spent by karl rove and biggs -- and big looters -- polluters.we saw tax on their energy policies. heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unsuccessful as well. to put some hard numbers on this -- only was spent seven percent of winning the races. you contrast that with the record i am proud to share with you that our organization has -- 80% was spent on winning. in massachusetts we had. voting for taxpayer handouts to those industries that are making near...
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we were dramatically outspent by karl rove and big polluters. we had the public on our side. voters wanted leaders who confront the challenge of climate change. we saw attacks on senators in montana and ohio on their energy policies. we saw attacks from mitt romney, heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unseccessful. the omney -- money spent on the affiliated crossroads organization -- the millions that was spent was spent on winning races. you contrast that with the record i'm sharing with you today our organization 83% of the money we spent was on winning races. one great example of that was in massachusetts where we ran accountability ads on scott brown on his environmental record and ties to the big oil companies both taking money on an campaign side and voting for taxpayer handouts to those industries that are making near record profits at the pump. pre and post polling from those ads showed that his record dropped among independent a shocking 21%. so i offer that as an anecdote of powerful the ties are in terms of public mind of who they trust in elected of
we were dramatically outspent by karl rove and big polluters. we had the public on our side. voters wanted leaders who confront the challenge of climate change. we saw attacks on senators in montana and ohio on their energy policies. we saw attacks from mitt romney, heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unseccessful. the omney -- money spent on the affiliated crossroads organization -- the millions that was spent was spent on winning races. you contrast that with the record i'm...
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karl rove we can convince some of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners, also joined in the sense of promise? >> there is not a law-abiding firearms owner across the united states that was not torn to pieces by what happened in sandy ". they just don't believe their constitutional right to own a firearm and the fact they can protect their family with a firearm results and the problem. >> you and i agree there should be more prosecution of illegal gun not torn to pieces possession and illegal gn ownership. >> i have been on this capitol hill for 20 some years agree to that and nobody does it and that's the problem. i will make you a bed right now -- when president obama leaves the office four years from now, his prosecutions will n
karl rove we can convince some of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners, also joined in the sense of promise? >>...
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. >> you certainly know the push clan, big fans of hunting, of course, karl rove goes out hunting on a regular basis. a lot of of the bush clan go out too. >> joe biden came forward he doesn't know if gun laws will prevent another newtown from happening again. >> debate continues this week for sure. happy birthday irs. today marks 100 years that americans have been getting taxed. so, is the tax code better now than a century ago? the answer i think will surprise. >> you forget changing into sneakers get fit by wearing high heels. it's working out for her. working out in city llweleyn toes can get you in shape. >> vacuuming, too. a live look at the big easy. more of the super bowl and our brian kilmeade coming up. next. >> do you have a stiletto in my size? [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a
. >> you certainly know the push clan, big fans of hunting, of course, karl rove goes out hunting on a regular basis. a lot of of the bush clan go out too. >> joe biden came forward he doesn't know if gun laws will prevent another newtown from happening again. >> debate continues this week for sure. happy birthday irs. today marks 100 years that americans have been getting taxed. so, is the tax code better now than a century ago? the answer i think will surprise. >> you...